F-Leg alliance (Diplomacy failure!)....and Talks with Wildbeast (all mesages and relations public for understanding whole situation)

I think it's wise if you read GWV's posts first and answer that, before even daring to order him around.
Remember, you are a guest here and you should pay respect to your hosts

Noble GreatWolfVladimir,

I am greatly humbled by your kind and generous words. I am very thankful to know so a great and generous Leader of Gentlemen, Ladies, and Wolves. At this time of year so much time is spent with family, friends, loved ones, and year end work finalizations that I am truly greatful that you spent your precious time writing such an illustrious response. I will answer your questions to the best of my ability.

As to the true reason why we left Starwolves, I can only speak for myself. It was partly from my adventurous spirit, partly from my pride hurting at not being remembered , Partly because I was put in "time out" even when I was fighting to keep us in the pack, but mostly because my pack leader had decided 100% that he wanted to spread his wings. I knew that he and Larry would need me far more than Starwolves who have so many great Leaders, Generals, and wise Warlords. As expected, the first few weeks almost ended the alliance even before it had a chance to start. While Wildbeast is correct that I am now a coleader, when we started I was just a peon supporting my pack leader and his best friend IRL. To any wolves who think they should branch out and start a new alliance I would caution you to think two or three times again. I am happy for the experience of being a leader, but the time, energy, blood, and sweat invested into leading an alliance are massive. It truly makes me appreciate GreatWolfVladimir and Hecthor Doomerhammer all the more. Even with three splitting responsabilities and duties, it is extremely hard.

Your question on the external page is a fair one. At first I believe nothing was placed because it is much like the son of a super famous star. The son gives himself a stage name so he is not mooching off of his fathers good name. You earned the respect and glory for the starwolves name and Larry, Wildbeast, and I felt it would be unfair to gain members by using it. Even now that we have done our due diligence in creating a great group of friends, I would not be so presumtious as to put anything regarding Starwolves onto our page unless it recieved your blessing, editing rights, and permission to do so. Please let me know what you feel would be appropriate and I will have Larry add it. Unfortunately, I have not done html or BBM code since university many moons ago.

To answer your next question, I could not hope to lead an alliance myself. Even if I were given the main alliance leadership I would name myself "servant". Because as a leader it would be my job to serve my friends and alliance mates in the best way I know possible. As I said earlier, being a small part of the leadership has given me such great respect for those who build successful and powerful alliances on thier own. The massive number of skills needed include but are not limited to: being a great recruiter, knowing computer codes to make a web page, knowing how to set up and manage a forum, diplomacy with the many other alliances in the universe, helping your brothers out with thier in game and real life problems, helping your brothers settle disputes between themselves, choosing a command structure that will work, setting up a system to help the less fortunate members of your alliance, getting people to stay excited about your alliance and the game, etc.

I would be deeply honoured to be the Ambassador between The Foriegn Legion and The Starwolves. I look forward to a long and prosperous relationship which is mutually beneficial to both partners in this new.... but at the same time very old and close friendship. I thank you again for being such a gracious host and generous leader.

To All Wolves,
Thank you for your hospitality and for considering our small legion to be part of your family again. We will never forget the roots in which our passion, respect, and good playing habits were developed. My door is always open.

With Greatest Respect and Humility,

Andarius
Co Leader of The Foriegn Legion

Midsplit wrote:Hi to everyone, this the first time I speak in public in the starwolves, I joined yesterday StarWolves and read the diplomatic issues with FLeg. In my opinion, I think Wildbeast didn't wrote so bad. GWV is mad and he is right to be mad, but you lost all your serious by insulting Wildbeast. I think both of you are great leaders and you should calm down and talk more peacefully, or let your diplomats make the job for you. All I see here is broken friendship and insulting each othher and this has to stop.
Regards, Midsplit

Seeing as how you changes alliances in this short week that you joined us, and the real life relationship between you and Wildbeast, it's no wonder you would choose his side.

Luckily for me didn;t trust you from the start and I didn;t answer all your questions, but I suggest you stay out of this, Metalguy39, as you re called nowadays

"Hello Wildbeast,

you know that I have no bad attitude to you, Larry and your alliance. You also know that I tried as ambassador and as player
to calm down the emotions.

You know also that Hecthor Doomhammer was angry and GreatWolfVladimir wanted respect. In my opinion Andarius wrote a good mail and you tried to show respect.

That was a good start. But the behavior of MIdsplit is not tolerable. This is very bad style and it is like putting gasoline into the fire.

I am hoping we can settle this; maybe you or Andarius can write something.

I hoped you had a nice x-mas,

with respect

Wolf Lord Waltersen

ambassador of Star Wolves"

Sorry for Midsplit, he applied to our alliance and we accepted him. We did not know that he were in your alliance before. Be assured we will investigate on this strange behavior. He has been excluded from FLeg.

I cannot comment as I do not know him. I do not have application processing privileges.

Noble Co Leader of The Foriegn Legion lord Andarius,

We are honored to see and read your words in EMBASSY HALL of the StarWolves.
You show the best what real Star Lord and leader can hawe, let your great wisdom is
challenging lessons for those, who dont know, how looks like real diplomacy.

We are a serius players, a serious and sucessfull alliance and home for many good players,
battlebrothers and battlepriestess, then invest few hours in christmass time or another vacations,
of my time for give to all of wolves better place for living,
is honor for me and for all Pack Leaders in StarWolves Chapter.
That are our service, our duty... to serve to all wolves for good game and fun.

We are honored to know that you are marked as ambassador for negotiations between us,
because we see that with you we are able to lead very good and honorable talks.

As reaction on your message,
I know about new mark of "time out" if I know then there was marked wolves who break some
rule or law in StarWolves alliance, but true is that time to time can be in system mistake,
by that way... we are not just silent accounts, but good players and its very simple to ask
on reason of this mark, or change it when reason of selecting is gone.

About fact, that young lord WildBeast before he leave us,
try send many messages to wolves, about leaving StarWolves
and create with him his new alliance,
can be still taken like very hard breaking of any trust and good relations,
laws and starting of hostile stances for open battle.
We still feel a negative stance, and I to... I to noble Lord Andarius but We give to your alliance another chance.
This is why negotiation is fragile and we have from young lord WildBeast insisted on respect.
Any bad movement in this negotiations can open very bad future... future in battle.
Im very patient, and you noble lord Andarius know that I try long time create good relations
based on respect and honor, young lord WildBeast must as first learn what diplomacy really is.


Noble Lord Andarius,
We must speak now on very important thing.
We want to know if that was hard breaking of any negotiations between us,
and if you can explain that whats there happens.Many of Wolves see and read
this whole diplomatic issue, and as you can see that there was
one player with nick name "Midsplit" - renamed on "Metalguy39" after he left the StarWolves.
All StarWolves see his abandoning of alliance, and many of them seen that he join into F-Leg
after very sghort time....

That was your SPY?

That was breaking of possibly relations?

That was extreme hostile action?

That was last thing in ours diplomacy?

Young Lord WildBeast... DONT WRITE TO US!
You are not ambassador and you
dont know what diplomacy is!
Until you show to us your apologizes,
your respect and honor to StarWolves,
you lost all ours respect!


GreatWolfVladimir
Leader of StarWolves
Planetary system FENRIS
mains stronghold - The WOLFs FANG

Once again I am humbled by your generosity and kind words. Your eloquence and grace show why Starwolves are a legendary alliance across the ogame multiverse. Your dedication to and hard work for your alliance are just one of the many factors that makes you a truly great leader. I am honoured to be able to negotiate with such great Kings as yourself and Hecthor_Doomhammer. [left]

As for the time out situation, I have spoken with Hecthor and apologized for my bad communication. When I left, I was thinking like a follower not as a leader, that is my unprofessional behavior. The fault and bad feelings from my bad communication and blind faith rest on my head and my head alone.

Please correct me if I am wrong, the only persons who were discussed about moving when the new alliance was formed were members of the Blood Hunters Pack and Valantik (out of respect and politeness he was asked knowing he would not go)? I do not believe outside of the core pack anyone was asked to come also. If I am not correct, all I can do is apologize for the bad behavior.

As for Metalguy/Midsplit I did not know him before his irrational posted on this forum. I know when I logged in this morning he had joined fleg, and a player named metalguy39 had been booted from the alliance. When I asked Wildbeast said he that Midsplit was a friend of his. As to your question of is he a spy, I do not know the truth in honest. Wildbeast said no, he is just a friend, so I must take his word for this. If he was truly a spy for someone, he was the dumbest and worst spy ever.

As for the greatest slap in the face to the Starwolves, Great Wolf Vladimir, and Hecthor_Doomhammer. My offer to rectify this great wrong which I made to you Great Wolf Vladimir in private message remains open and valid. I know that your great patience is nearing its end with certain persons, possibly the wounds are so deep that healing is not possible. If this is the case and my initial offer does not suffice and the blood vengeance is needed, then I offer all seven of my worlds freely to those who hunger, until they are sated. I will build no more defense until such a time as you Wise Great Wolf Vladimir say you and my extended wolf family are happy and have eaten enough of my flesh to appease their appetite for revenge.

The Starwolves are my heritage and my extended family, regardless of how things play out, I would no more hurt you knowingly than I would hurt my own extended family in real life. If you talk to the members in the Foreign Legion alliance you will find eight very nice people who I truly enjoy talking with, and to whom I feel responsible for in a very large way.

I stand before you in humility asking for your graciousness and generosity,

With greatest respect,

Andarius

servant of the Foreign Legion

It has come ti my attention that Wildbeast has yet again aquired a higher ranked account. This time of one of his own.
However, I also realize that his old account, which he got from us is lost forever and he has shown no honor or respect by opting to giving it back to us.

Thus I say that we should be free to attack F-leg as we please (given we stay within the Ruls of the Game of course)

message sended to lord Andarius in PM in game at : 24.02.2012 02:14:34


Answer from Lord Andarius>
good evening Noble lord Great Wolf Vladimir.

I have a very tough work schedule at the moment. I know Wildbeast and Larry are appealing but are not hopeful for a positive outcome as you said. Their ban was because they are good friends irl and are often at each others houses. I need to have a meeting next week to discuss the future and where the guild as a whole wants to head. I will put all options on the table and will post on your noble forum when I have more time to make something slightly more eloquent than this short message. I will keep you updated regularly . I hope for a good future and relations .